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THE BATHROOM ISSUE 15 May 2016 19:38 #9800

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I have been doing a lot of listening to NPR and their coverage of the bathroom laws in relation to transponders. I am sympathetic to the issue and imagine it must be challenging for a transgender to make the decision to transition into the bathroom environment they have chosen to identify with. It cannot be easy.
While listening to an interview yesterday a gentleman was interviewed and he stated his legitimate concern for females in a women's restroom. He explained that he was against the law allowing transgenders to use the bathroom of the sex they were identifying with because this would open the door for predators to take advantage of the situation and dress up as a woman and enter a female restroom where women are very vulnerable. This seems like a very valid argument to me.
They then interviewed a local transgender woman who was born male and now identifies as female and she expressed how disappointed she was to be referred as a "predator"
Now this man never said that transgenders were predators, he very clearly stated his concern was about men who would take advantage of this law. I see this happening a lot within the transgender community. The verbiage and meanings are being mis represented wrongly quoted in order make a point of non acceptance and inequality and honestly it is very annoying. I would hope that anyone who is passionate about equality and is out pursuing change by voicing their opinions and concerns be smart, listen and practice critical thinking before responding. Certain issues involve us ALL as a society not just the person who is pushing for change.
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THE BATHROOM ISSUE 15 May 2016 21:08 #9808

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I've been keeping up with this as well, and I feel like you do. Its a good argument to make about predators dressing up as woman just to attack them or try something malicious. I recently saw a video and this man walks into Target to get some information about the gender laws regarding the bathrooms. He ask if he identifies as woman that if he can just talk into the woman's restroom and the employee replies with the new rules tell us that if you identify as woman that he can just enter. The employee doesn't have to check anything to see if you really are a woman or not and this just goes to show how easy it is for predators to advantage. I feel people have a good reason to be concerned, and some people are just generally concerned with what this may open doors too.
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THE BATHROOM ISSUE 26 May 2016 11:19 #9934

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I understand what you and this man is saying about the predator issue, but I do not agree. This can happen now as well, I don't think this would be an issue just because we finally let people go to the restroom where they feel most comfortable.
Also what you are saying that the transgender community is misinterpreting statements like this just because they are easily offended, I think that that is a statement that we as cis people do not have any right to say. We have never been in their situation, which is a very venerable. If you and me who personally have not been in that position makes these comments we just add to the oppression of the transgender community.
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THE BATHROOM ISSUE 28 May 2016 19:45 #9945

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I cannot say I agree with you, Sarah. Amidst the growing controversy over Target’s new instillation of the transgender-friendly bathroom policy, I feel as if its basic principle has been lost in the shuffle. The core principle of this policy (as it pertains to employees; customer usage policies vary) as released by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), is defined: “All employees, including transgender employees, should have access to restrooms that correspond to their gender identity”.

I hear you when you express your concern for the possibility of predatory men (not transgender women) taking advantage of this law. I also hear this very valid concern from mothers, wives, and husbands with children. However, it must not be forgotten that predators ¬were predators before this policy was instilled. Anybody, man or woman, with the desire to sexually harass another could have just as easily dressed as the opposite gender and entered the corresponding bathroom just a few months ago as they can now. The only legal protection provided by this new code is the allowance of members of the transgender community to use the restroom without hassle; rape and sexual harassment are still very illegal and reportable, and in such a case, corporations in support of this policy have no reason to hesitate in calling on-location security, as well as the authorities.

Hundreds of other corporations currently support OSHA’s inclusivity policy, including: Starbucks, Amazon, Nike, CVS, Facebook, Apple, Twitter, Disney, AT&T, Visa, eBay, Pandora, Microsoft, and Office Depot. The majority of these store locations offer family bathrooms as well for those who do not agree with the new policy and/or find they would feel more comfortable or safe in a private restroom. These corporations truly do not intend to ostracize any demographic, and I admire the flexibility and communication offered by each of them to their customers in order to uphold each brand’s unwavering core values.
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THE BATHROOM ISSUE 29 May 2016 07:37 #9946

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Hi Michelle,

Thank you for your comments :) I think it is important to clarify that I never objected to allowing Transgenders to use the bathroom of their choice. That is not what my post was about at all. It was the comment the gentlemen made about general predators and how the transgender that NPR interviewed for a response, mentioned that he did not like being referred to as a predator. The original man interviewed NEVER referred to transgenders in a negative way, in fact he was concerned for their safety. My post was about how not using proper thinking skills and allowing your passion for an agenda cloud your ability to respond to the actual statement.

I never expressed that I was concerned about predators, I mentioned that I could see the validity in what the gentleman who was interviewed was feeling. That does not mean I feel the same way.

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Sarah
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THE BATHROOM ISSUE 29 May 2016 10:46 #9949

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I understand the concern with the Bathroom Issue but I feel there not grounded. The concern is that predators will find this opportunity to pray on women and children in the bathroom. Well, as mentioned in this forum, predators have in the past prayed on people and they will do so in the future and is law is going to stop them. If a person really wants to do shitty stuff to each other their going to find away. This law is to help people life, to prevent discrimination. When I see some of these people fight so hard against things that should be so obvious as common human decency I feel that its something deeper (money usually and/or power) like the prevention of more strict gun control but I don't see the advantages in this. This is about preventing discrimination and helpfully making peoples more easy and respected.
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