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TOPIC: Asian sterotypes

Asian sterotypes 29 Apr 2013 01:42 #2768

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All my life I grew up in a very diverse community. I had never saw skin color when choosing friends, I just found people who I felt connected on the same level as I. When I moved to LA I noticed that there were racism is clearly still present in todays society and living in san francisco my world was so small compared to in LA. Many people prejudge you due to the color of your skin and I don't think that is fair at all. I have gotten a lot of racial stereotypes thrown in my face and I have found that I have to conduct myself in a way that I'm putting on this front just so people won't mess with me. I am asian, and I am not the stereotypical asian who is good at math and eats rice everyday, I am a normal American who speaks english and not a single word of japanese or tagalog. I find it very hard to genuinenly trust anyone anymore due to the fact that people tend to think that asians are weak and nerdy. People assume that I only eat with chop sticks and use soy sauce with everything. For myself I like to meet interesting people regardless of what they look like. I stray away from stereotypes because I don't want to let someone or a cultures way of living determine my personality or the way I conduct myself
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Asian sterotypes 05 May 2013 01:34 #2815

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I'm sorry you've experienced this, but I can assure you there is plenty of racism everywhere-including San Francisco- and there are plenty of Americans who know better than to believe stereotypes. Besides, there is nothing wrong with eating rice everyday (I'm white and I do), or being good at math. Some stereotypes are based in truth, and not all stereotypes are negative. I think if you stop focusing so much on being stereotyped, and live your life the way you want, ignoring negativity, you will notice it less. Also, you are stereotyping people in Los Angeles the same way you feel people are stereotyping you. I grew up in LA and I can tell you that most Angelenos I know have an incredibly diverse group of friends, that include people of all backgrounds. LA has more nationalities represented than any other city in the US. Most of us are used to people of all backgrounds, and we draw from our own experiences in our perceptions of others. Perhaps you should spend your time around the thousands of people in Los Angeles who are educated, well-traveled, come from diverse backgrounds and are not prone to stereotyping. Also, you should work on the negative stereotyping you have demonstrated in your post, instead of being self-righteous and condemning Los Angeles, as if it is uniquely racist.
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Asian sterotypes 05 May 2013 22:58 #2857

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First off I never stated that San Francisco wasn't racist because every where there is racism. The asian community in Sf is significantly greater then in the Westside Of Los Angeles which is what I meant by a my world became a lot bigger and I wasn't in my comfort zone like in San Francisco. I also never said that LA was "Uniquely Racist" or that I was focusing on LA in it's self. I just stated that coming from being so sheltered in San Francisco and it being so small that when I moved to LA it was a lot bigger and with more people I was exposed to a different culture and different people from what I am used to. I am really confused by your stament when you say that some stereotypes are based on truth and not negative, but not ALL asians eat rice everyday, this stereotype isn't true at all, regardless if you eat rice because your not asian. I agree with you on that I should stop focusing on not being stereotyped and just live my life, but I am in a industry where your look is a significant factor in booking a job and your skill is the second thing that matters. In the industry that I'm in stereotypes are taken into consideration and I feel that if "people", not just Angelenos, stopped practicing prejudged notions about people, we would live in a more positive community rather then a negative one. Like you stated yourself your white, so in my personal opinion I'm not too sure if you understand the feeling of being a minority since being white is at the top of the hierarchy in terms of race. Don't get me wrong I have a lot of different friends from white to hispanic to black, but its the unconscious stereotypes that hurt the most and most of the time they don't even know there doing it. For example my friend invited me to a party but I couldn't go I had school and his reply way " Man you always have to be a good Asian, huh". I didn't even know what to say to that because everyone goes to school but he had to refer it back to asians are smart and good at math and don't like that have fun because school is there fun. So you should probably work on not getting so defensive and judging someones character like calling them "self-righteous" when you don't even know who there are and basing it all on a passage that I was required to write for school. My intention was not to focused on you and Los Angeles but as a culture as a whole.
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Asian sterotypes 05 May 2013 23:58 #2861

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I read all the posts and I agree with you. I am Korean and lived in other state for few years, graduated high school there. Honestly, I did experienced racism for being an Asian. No offense, but no matter where you go, I think there is racism. I moved to Los Angeles two years ago, I noticed that so many people from different countries live here but, still there is racism. Like you said, people kinda have stereotypes that Asians are good at math and eat rice everyday, plus don't speak English very well. I know that I don't speak English like native American do, but I can. This is kida off topic but in my personal experience, when I was in high school, my classmates made fun of me because I could not speak English perfectly. So I just told them in Korean that I can speak both Korean and English but you guys don't so I think I am better than you guys. They of course could not understand what I was saying but I felt better for doing that. I agree with you that no one can understand how if feels when experiencing racism, unless they experience it. It is kinda sad in a way that I got kind of used to it that I don't care anymore, I just think that I should not have stereotypes by looking at other people's skin color or just by their lookings. Thank you for posting!
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Asian sterotypes 06 May 2013 23:35 #2906

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" When I moved to LA I noticed that there were racism is clearly still present in todays society and living in san francisco my world was so small compared to in LA. Many people prejudge you due to the color of your skin and I don't think that is fair at all."

You didn't' say that LA is uniquely racist, but that is how I perceived the above comment. You don't have to say something explicitly to infer meaning. I am confused by how you don't understand that many stereotypes have truth to them. Just because you don't eat rice everyday does not mean that the stereotype is untrue in general. What I meant is that stereotypes are not inherently negative; negativity is derived from the intention behind it. Rice is a traditional food commonly associated with Asian cuisine. There is the truth of the stereotype. I am simply pointing out that stereotypes are derived from people's observations of others. This is a commonly accepted theory you learn in any Sociology, psychology, political science or interpersonal communication class. Think about it objectively. Is there anything negative about being assumed to eat rice everyday? Is there any inferiority implied by such a stereotype? I may not have experienced racism, but that doesn't mean I haven't experienced discrimination or oppression. As my name implies, I am a woman. Think about the many stereotypes and forms of social oppression that entails. Your comment about white people not experiencing any kind of social discrimination is another stereotype. I live in Latin America, where I am considered a gringo- which is a derogatory term Latin Americans use for white people. I experience judgement and stereotypes, i.e. i can afford to pay gringo prices because i must be rich (i'm not- at all), every single day. I know it hurts, it's frustrating, etc. But, I choose to live in a place where I have to deal with it, and I don't complain because I choose to focus on the positive.Furthermore, I am the grand daughter of a Choctaw Indian, who grew up impoverished on a reservation in Oklahoma. I classify myself as white because the bulk of my background is white. I am a registered Native American and have grown up reminded of the hardships my grandpa faced, and the privilege I have been afforded. As for your friend, he is either a jerk or doesn't realize he is being insensitive. Perhaps if you talk to him about it, instead of assuming he is just being racist, you will help combat the problem, especially considering how upset you are over assumptions people make about you. Finally, I did not say nor imply that you are talking about me, personally. I know better than to take these things personally. But, you opened your rant with your experiences about LA. Obviously I misunderstood where your frustrations were directed, but even as I re-read it, it still seems like you are saying these things did not happen in SF, but now in LA they are. The thoughtful comment below, from Hanna, indicates that she got the same inference from your comment- that you are talking about LA having racism that SF doesn't. I apologize that I have clearly upset you, but you are absolutely incorrect in your stereotype that being white exempts me from stereotypes, oppression, or discrimination. Ask any woman how many times she's been told she can't do something because she isn't strong enough, or suffered the old stereotype that women can't drive, or lead, or be direct without the old PMS-ing comments. Or, learn about the Glass Ceiling, read the kind of criticism launched at Hilary Clinton and other white female figures on account of their gender, and tell me how fair my world is. Oh, and I called you self-righteous because you act as if you are innocent of any similar transgressions. Well, you have deemed me untouched by any experience similar to yours, without having any possible notion of the truth of that statement. So, you have proven my statement correct, and I stand by it. I empathize with your experience, as I encounter sexism and bias on account of my skin color and citizenship with regularity here in Costa Rica, as well as in the U.S. Ultimately, racism, sexism, and every other social classification aimed at distinguishing inferiority only holds as much power as you allow. I choose not to take people's assumptions about me seriously, because I refuse to validate them.
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Asian sterotypes 12 May 2013 06:51 #2937

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Some of my friends say that LA doesn't have racism not as much as other states for its number of immigrants and diversity. I think they are mistaken or they were talking about 'the white people's racism'. Being non-white doesn't give excuse for being racist. That is, anyone can be a racist if that person has wrong values on races. I've seen lots of people discriminating each other and they weren't white people. Such as black people calling white men as 'white boys' and discriminating Asians, Asians talking racist about Latinos and blacks, and many more. I'm not saying certain group of race is a problem. The problem is people's mind, and that wrong mind doesn't has to do anything with ethnicity or skin color. Since we all know that nobody likes to be treated unfairly with racism, however, for some reason, we are still doing it to each other.
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